nikos wrote:wrt tabs, i thought of having them move to the other pane, but it isn't as simple as it seems... you can always press ctrl+alt+ins to open the current tab in the other side as a new tab
How about Ctrl+Alt+Shift+Ins for spawning a new Tab in the opposite pane and then closing the active tab?
It might be getting a little crazy on that shortcut combo (I use longer ones ), but they can learn to like them .
If not, we could just create a macro which executes Ctrl+Alt+Ins and then whatever shortcut closes a tab.
1 comment about the new robust copy option and 1 request.
About the new F5 option (overwrite existing folders):
I see the problem, that the dialog box which tells about a conflict (i. e. an folder with the same name is already in the target folder) does look and "sound" identically as the one, where (without the new option) a conflict because of identical file names arises. The text in the dialog "The folder already contains ..." is identical in both cases and it will be hard to recognize, that there is another situation. The new option is likely to produce more data loss (if wrongly used), as files, which have been in the target but not in the source will get lost (what will not happen without the new option). In fact the new option is more a syncing function than a copy function and this should be expressed with another wording and / or another style of the box.
Another thing, which bothers me since a long time: Wherever in x2 you have to set a value (e.g. defining an advanced rule with a creation date for a file), where you can change the value with 2 arrows up/down (in German this is called "Drehfeld", translated "rotary field", can someone please tell me the official English word for that?), you have to click the down arrow to rise the value and the up arrow to lower the value. Not only is this against all logic (and again and again I at first click the wrong value), it is contrary to all other programs, where in this kind of field "up" is really "up" and "down" means in fact "down". Please use the next version to correct this.
Cosmo wrote:Wherever in x2 you have to set a value (e.g. defining an advanced rule with a creation date for a file), where you can change the value with 2 arrows up/down (in German this is called "Drehfeld", translated "rotary field", can someone please tell me the official English word for that?), you have to click the down arrow to rise the value and the up arrow to lower the value.
True, especially confusing as it conflicts with Actions -> Change Attributes, where when changing the 'Time' value, it works as expected (up is up).
As an aside, I don't think it has an "official" name in English... it would have many. Ranging from "that adjuster thingie" to whatever the Windows API reference calls the widget. Rotary Adjuster (or for that matter, just "Rotary") would probably do fine. English is not especially a well-thought-out logical language. Which makes it rather fun, if impractical.
nikos wrote:The confirmation dialog looks similar but it does have a folder icon!
I did notice the folder icon, and obviously I expected the dialog (because I provoked the situation), but even under these condition I was somehow confused. Now take a less experienced (forgive me) user who does not expect the dialog ...
Not to be misunderstood: I think is new feature is fine and will help, if a user wants to sync some folders with x2. But you (the author) should prevent to let the user come into a situation, where he can get in real trouble.
In the meantime I found another problem with this feature and I wonder if this is intentional (in this I would disagree): The deleted folder and it's content do not go into the recycle bin! I think it is compulsory that the bin gets used (if not disabled in the bin's setting).
I stumble across a problem with the alpha, where I want others to take a look:
If I have a color-coding rule, which matches with the content of the active tab of the active folder pane and I disable just this rule, kenny crashes.
Example: A rule, which makes a certain color coding for files which are newer than 7 days. If there are objects in the active tab with new files I get at 100 % a crash. But this is not only with this rule. Other example: A rule which makes a color coding for objects that have hidden or system attributes.
The crash does not appear if I activate the opposite pane (leaving the tab with the questioned content visible in opposite inactive pane). If now I deactivate one of the said rules x2 immediately reflects this change there and continues without problems.
The crash also does not happen if I (with the tab with the related content and the pane both active) deactivate color-coding with the old (already available in the final builds since long time) setting totally.
What I can do is this: I deactivate color-coding totally, re-enter the dialog and disable only the questioned rule and re-activate color-coding again. If I now re-enter the color-coding dialog again and activate the said rule, this works and nothing crashes. This means, only deactivating of a single rule is problematic, not re-activating and not deactivating color-coding totally. And the problem is only there, if related objects are in the active tab of the active pane.
The real problem is, that Nikos cannot reproduce the crashes and told me to discuss this here. On the other site I test this in a rather few modified virtual machine with XP SP3, which has no network connection (so there can get nothing in, what I did not install by will), this system has no security app (except the build-in XP FW) at all, which could interfere.
There was the idea that this might be a timing problem in the virtual box machine, but if you compare my given results where it crashes and where not a timing problem does not seem to be very likely (and I have never encountered timing problems with VB machines since I use it (about 1 year).
Did anybody see this? Other testers should try to reproduce the problem to find out, if this is really a problem on my site - but at the moment I have no idea where to look.
Quite another idea for the forum's admins: What do you think about a beta tester board? So we could make single threads for all topics that may arise; I fear, that "merging" them in a single thread it will get very soon confusing and difficult to not forget the one or other topics. On the other site: Opening different thread in the x2 pro board will also be confusing to find them and my be confusing for new users, who need only hep and information for the final builds.
Hi Cosmo,
I can clearly reproduce your problem on a Vista32 laptop. There is one more condition (at my side at least) to make life hard for poor Kenny: not only should the activated pane contain a file(s) which would change appearance when unchecking the applicable color rule. Instead, one of the files which would change appearance, must be under focus at the moment (selected or not doesn't matter) the color rule is unchecked and 'OK-ed'.
Kenny does not crash here, but if I'm lucky I get an assertion message. If not, X2 freezes with a CPU burning on a full 100%. Will send Nikos the report.
About your beta tester board: i agree. Or some other way of communication. I might be reporting things which might 've been reported several times by the others.
I think it's not too hard in phpBB forums to set up a board for this, possibly only accessible by the testers.
If this board is only available for beta testers or not is so far not in my concern. At the moment the beta tester's posts are also readable for everybody. My concern is the possibility to make the beta's topics better readable and to avoid the risk, that a topic gets lost, because at now they get hidden after a short time somewhere some pages back and they can easily get forgotten.
I started with Robust Delete, of course. I was deleting here and there (can we do something about the assert that pops up every time the job changes), then, once everything was finished, closed x2's window. Apparently something got stuck in memory and when I was shutting down my PC, I was presented with Robust Delete window showing the progress from last finished job.
I'm using Xplorer2 - the only file manager that does not suck. Actually, it rocks!
robust delete: i need to work this out a bit more; unless you close the window manually, it merely gets hidden so if in the end you don't do <alt+X> it remains hidden in memory
new folder overwrite bit: the "overwritten" folders don't go to the recycle bin, they go to kingdome come!
i'll move the color coding stuff to another thread... if i can find how to do it
For anyone playing with the new nMaxTButWidth value (under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ ... \Zab...plc\xplorer2_UC) don't try using a value larger than 150 (decimal) as the width in pixels... kenny rejects anything greater and defaults/resets back to a minuscule 64. Granted, at least 150 pixels allows quite a bit of wriggle-room for names, which I am grateful for...
Not that Nikos could have mentioned this and saved me a bit of messing or anything... :D
(Ok, yes, that's why we're here, but how many electrons were inconvenienced by all those superfluous PM's? Hmm? )
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