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Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 12, 21:17
by mmp3
Is there a way to build-in any file name checks in rename function (F2 or slow double click)? Currently if I paste a name of a book, which usually contains a colon, and press "enter" an error message box pops up saying that there is an error (hi Captain Obvious!) and then I have to dismiss it, and then I have to click once on a filename because it is selected as a whole, and then I have to locate where colon is (not so simple in long filenames!) and then sometimes when I fix and press "enter" there is a message box again - I have missed another forbidden symbol!!! You know what? If I do the same operation in windows explorer - it behaves smart as a hell doing all magic for me. Xplorer2 has to catch up.

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 13, 07:35
by nikos
if instead of F2 you do a "mass rename" from FILE menu, this corrects for any illegal characters.

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 13, 18:59
by mmp3
You mean each time I want to rename single file I have to go to File->open Mass rename->fill the pattern and then press "enter"... And all this to avoid one redundant message box in regular order?

What about improving usability in-place?

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 13, 19:09
by nikos
now you don't have to do it every time, only those times that you want to break the laws of renaming ;)

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 13, 19:49
by FrizzleFry
I think removing or replacing illegal characters when using F2 rename would be a useful improvement.

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 13, 19:58
by mmp3
"The laws of renaming"??? Are you still living in 1990th? :) The user is king now, nobody cares what is under the hood, the application either delivers or not.

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 15, 23:03
by pj
I also agree this improvement will be useful for F2 rename. I have lots of instances where ":" is included in the string pasted in for rename. Deleting invalid characters automatically will be helpful. Even better would be to provide a substitution list of characters to replace the invalid characters.

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PJ

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 16, 06:46
by nikos
ah yes, what's the point of a good file manager if not to promote sloppiness :)
we'll see for the next version that will do a renaming uphaul

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 18, 00:55
by pj
nikos wrote:ah yes, what's the point of a good file manager if not to promote sloppiness
As I explained to my engineers regarding why they needed to make extra effort to create mistake-proof or more manufacturable designs: "You do this ONCE, but Production | End-User will be dealing with this HUNDREDS or THOUSANDS of times".

The end-user multiplier trumps the lazy engineer / designer every time :D

By the way (and I know I shouldn't ask :cry: ) how's the simple substitution capability for mass-rename coming along? You know, that little tid-bit that was requested by the masses a (long) while back?

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PJ in (rain, thunder, lighting, Oh My!) FL

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 19, 06:14
by nikos
mass rename will be upgraded with v3 this autumn, not long now!

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2014 Mar 20, 04:42
by pj
"V3"? Oh boy! Can't wait! :party: :beer:

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PJ in (sleepy) FL

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2018 Dec 18, 02:11
by pj
Well, here we are 4 plus years and two full revisions later and I still have to manually remove invalid characters when pasting a string in to replace "New folder" when I press F8 to create a folder.

<sigh>

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pj in (missing K :( ) FL
editted 2018-12-18 1721Z to correct the f-key reference. pj

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2018 Dec 18, 05:03
by nikos
mass renaming automatically removes invalid chars, as professed, but plain renaming doesn't. Are you trying to file a new request? ;)

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2018 Dec 18, 17:27
by pj
So if you implemented the filter in F2 renaming, where's the logic to leave it out of F7/F8 naming/renaming? The invalid characters can't be in the final name, so toss them and show a note in the info bar that you did and move on.

So anyway, whether this s a new request, bump of an old request, or just a waste of time, an improvement in F7 / F8 naming would be appreciated...

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pj in (cold, well at least chilly) FL

Re: Smarter rename

Posted: 2018 Dec 19, 12:11
by nikos
the idea is that mass rename inserts text without the user's supervision, so it needs to be "governed", whereas a simple F2 rename is user-controlled. Anyway i'll add this, automatically removing illegal stuff :xmas: