v2209 beta

Post by **nikos** » 2013 Feb 13, 14:37

download link: www.zabkat.com/xplorer2_setup_ult_beta.exe
(32 bit ultimate only)

the most important change is the new filter box

any problems please let me know

Kilmatead · Post by **Kilmatead** » 2013 Feb 13, 18:34

Options for the filterbar in the Advanced Settings thingy seem flaky at best - "Size % of Addressbar" has no effect, 0 or otherwise, and curiously "Incremental Search Auto-Filter" integer seems to only work for 0 through 5 - anything else simply fails even though it's adjustable to 12 (as if anyone would ever use that). The two options should also be (logically) together in the filter section instead of being separated at birth. However, since logic was never your strong suit, we'll ignore that oversight.

And if there's supposed to be a "new" bindable keyboard shortcut for the filterbar, I'm a dunce as I can't find it for me teeth.

(At least the <Down> part works more or less as expected.)

And would it really kill you to add a couple of white-pony-in-snowstorm icons to identify the status-bar click-points? At least allocate a space in the resources for them so they may be added bespoke for those of us who don't like snowblindness.

And I'm leaning towards the idea of being able to "exclude folders" from the quick-filter bar behaviour so they'd be available all the time. Not sure though.

(Painfully shy filterbar font-descenders under high DPI fixed - thanks.

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ozzii · Post by **ozzii** » 2013 Feb 14, 06:37

Maybe not relative to this version but I will ask my question anyway (if I need to post a new topic just tell me):
Is there any way to do a search (CTRL+F) just for the selected folders ?
Actually the search it's done for all the folders inside the pane.
I would like to do a search JUST in the selected folder.

Anyway (or maybe a new feature).

Post by **nikos** » 2013 Feb 14, 07:17

first copy all the selected folder names using Alt+Ctrl+C (comma separated list), then paste in the Look In folder of <Ctrl+F>

kilmatead, I think the settings work, but I'll have another look. Either me or you are still asleep!

ps to assign a key to the filter box, use Help > command finder and search for filter. You can then find the command in Customize > Keyboard (misc category)

ozzii · Post by **ozzii** » 2013 Feb 14, 08:01

Thanks for the explanation.
Any possibility to add this "option" in this window somewhere ?

This will be easier to do with a tick box :roll:

Kilmatead · Post by **Kilmatead** » 2013 Feb 14, 08:23

nikos wrote:I think the settings work, but I'll have another look.

Even after a reboot and a decent night's rest, certainly the percentage of addressbar has no effect whatsoever - 0 or otherwise. The other one does seem to work today but definitely was failing upon first installation.

I'm still getting too many "auto switch to filterbar" failures (in general), but I assume we're still under the debug routines so that one's harder to nail down.

nikos wrote:...to assign a key to the filter box

33250 - like I was supposed to guess that. Command Finder? I'm a power user! I don't need no bloody command finder! :oops: (Yeah, yeah, fine, so it worked... still doesn't mean we forgive you for the Battle of Marathon... the Persians deserved that one...)

Post by **nikos** » 2013 Feb 14, 08:32

ok the filter box % thing doesn't work. But the autoswitch should! There are no more debug routines, so if you have something reproducible let me know. Keep in mind that there is a .5 second timeout so if you don't type fast enough the incremental search is reset

Kilmatead · Post by **Kilmatead** » 2013 Feb 14, 08:32

And Ozzii's idea has merit (even though it definitely doesn't belong in this thread) - it should be the default behaviour, not some weird workaround or even a checkbox. Why else would I hit <Ctrl+F> with multiple folders selected if I didn't want to search through them all?

Kilmatead · Post by **Kilmatead** » 2013 Feb 14, 08:39

Does deleting a character count as part of the .5 sec timeout? Even with that aside, there are still too many missed catches where everything typed is just ignored and one is spammed with those annoying "dings". Seems to happen mostly upon first-use after first-opening x2. Subsequent uses seem to catch properly. (Not a timing thing.) I'll keep chipping away at that granite rock...

ozzii · Post by **ozzii** » 2013 Feb 14, 08:40

Kilmatead wrote:And Ozzii's idea has merit (even though it definitely doesn't belong in this thread) - it should be the default behaviour, not some weird workaround or even a checkbox. Why else would I hit <Ctrl+F> with multiple folders selected if I didn't want to search through them all?

I agree, I propose the checkbox for not changing all the behavior/routine of the search.
But you are right Kilmatead, me too I think that this should be the default behavior (more logical).

Post by **nikos** » 2013 Feb 14, 09:34

backspace has no effect in incremental search (how do you know what are you deleting if you cannot see it?). The dings you hear are because the listview complains that there is no match in your incremental search -- which only considers the start of names. To eliminate the ding we'd have to say goodbye to the listview search, which would upset even more people

Kilmatead · Post by **Kilmatead** » 2013 Feb 14, 10:04

nikos wrote:The dings you hear are because the listview complains that there is no match in your incremental search -- which only considers the start of names.

I may not have been able to find the keyboard binding for the filterview where you hid it away from humanity, but I'm not so much of a dunce as to not know what those dings mean. Those aren't the dings I'm referring to - it's like it's still trying to match the "old way" by disregarding any text typed other than the first character - when it should either be queueing it or switching to the filterbar depending on the setting. (And, by the way, I'm not imagining it, sometimes your character-queueing just fails completely so there's something wrong with how it traps the first character and decides if it's the beginning of a great adventure or just an errant keystroke and falls back to the "old style".)

And I may not be able to "see" what I'm typing, but I know when I've mistyped, so deletion need not be visible. I guess you're the kind of guy who always turns on the light in the loo when you make your customary 4am visit?

Some of us just know where everything is by sonar and the light of the jolly jolly moon.)

Post by **nikos** » 2013 Feb 14, 10:42

give me something reproducible then i will look into it

Kilmatead · Post by **Kilmatead** » 2013 Feb 14, 11:05

In the past all the great romantic things were done on a hunch, on a leap of faith - searching for the Northwest-Passage, exploring the lost wilds of Antarctica, seeking the source of the Nile.

Now it's all just "don't bother me until you have proof", or "go away and play with mum for awhile", or "when's lunch?"

Weep I must, that we've fallen so far.

Post by **nikos** » 2013 Feb 14, 12:57

let's try this again with corrected settings editor
www.zabkat.com/xplorer2_setup_ult_beta.exe