blog: UAC survival guide
Moderators: fgagnon, nikos, Site Mods
blog: UAC survival guide
here's the comment area for today's blog post found at
http://zabkat.com/blog/14Feb10-surviving-UAC.htm
http://zabkat.com/blog/14Feb10-surviving-UAC.htm
There are also sudo for Windows and MachMichAdmin (German).
Tux. ; tuxproject.de
registered xplorer² pro user since Oct 2009, ultimated in Mar 2012
registered xplorer² pro user since Oct 2009, ultimated in Mar 2012
perhaps you don't understand what this would entail, no less than a complete rewrite of the program
the latest version has this Window > Administrator command which you can use 'momentarily' then get back to your normal window
or alternatively, use drag drop as i say in the article which elevates just when necessary for a single move or copy
the latest version has this Window > Administrator command which you can use 'momentarily' then get back to your normal window
or alternatively, use drag drop as i say in the article which elevates just when necessary for a single move or copy
Ouch.. That's slightly depressing to me, as this issue is probably the main reason why I can no longer recommend X² to my friends.nikos wrote:perhaps you don't understand what this would entail, no less than a complete rewrite of the program...
I have to open vanilla Explorer frequently now - I've become quite accustomed to the 'oh crap, I can't do that properly in X²... Ctrl+Tab, Ctrl+C, Ctrl+E, Tab Tab Ctrl+V Enter, <do action>, Alt+F4, <resume using X²>'. I'm not sure what's more sad - that I have to use Explorer all the time, or the fact that I can recite that keystroke chain by memory...

-Thracx
"Man wants to know, and when he ceases to do so, he is no longer a man."
-Fridtjof Nansen
"Man wants to know, and when he ceases to do so, he is no longer a man."
-Fridtjof Nansen
Sorry, I didn't watch the video, but I understood what I needed to from namsupo's second post and your response saying that UAC support simply doesn't exist natively in X², and isn't coming anytime soon.nikos wrote:what can't you do properly? did you watch the demo video?...
The "tricks" don't work in the sense that the reason I use X² is because it has xyz functionality. If I wanted to use Explorer's copy instead of Robust copy all the time, then well I'd be using Explorer instead of X²

I use permissions extensively throughout my computers, so unfortunately it affects me all the time.nikos wrote:...in the end of the day it is only a handful of folders that is affected
Examples - my Media server only grants read-only access so nothing can edit or add files, which is a needed safeguard from misc programs like WMP from making changes without my direct permission, etc. I still have a few old MP3s that I personally extracted & tagged myself, but have since gotten malformed ID3 tags and I don't know why or from where.
Another example, my sensitive data is also protected by permissions to guard against potential malware issues, including the most common malware - human error

There were many long standing problems with WinXP's default permission schema, and honestly, UAC is a superb compromise between full-access without safeguards (WinXP default) vs full-security (multi-account).
-Thracx
"Man wants to know, and when he ceases to do so, he is no longer a man."
-Fridtjof Nansen
"Man wants to know, and when he ceases to do so, he is no longer a man."
-Fridtjof Nansen
so you don't want to use drag-drop in xplorer2 and you open windows explorer to do... drag-drop? I just don't get your argument!
as you trust xplorer2 you can use it in full administrator mode all the time, and problems are gone
just be careful what programs you start with it, especially what you download
as you trust xplorer2 you can use it in full administrator mode all the time, and problems are gone
just be careful what programs you start with it, especially what you download
My argument (I'd say more of my stated opinion, wasn't really an argument) was about using keyboard shortcuts, not mouse stuff like drag-drop (above where I made the joke that I knew that long keystroke chain by memory...). I try to avoid the mouse as much as possible.nikos wrote:so you don't want to use drag-drop in xplorer2 and you open windows explorer to do... drag-drop? I just don't get your argument!
Oh I trust X² fine, per above it's about preventing mistakes. Running as full-rights all the time begs for human error, not program errors.nikos wrote:...as you trust xplorer2 you can use it in full administrator mode all the time, and problems are gone
I've since turned off the always Robust-copy option in X², and while it's sad to see it go, I don't have to use vanilla Explore nearly as much anymore. Speaking of which, do you happen to know why the Win7 copy dialog is so slow? It seems to take at least twice as long as X²'s robust copy!
-Thracx
"Man wants to know, and when he ceases to do so, he is no longer a man."
-Fridtjof Nansen
"Man wants to know, and when he ceases to do so, he is no longer a man."
-Fridtjof Nansen
I feel that Thracx mentioned following annoyance: a) you firstly try to make some operation in protected folder b) you get error message from xplorer c) you retry the operation in other way with elevated privileges.nikos wrote:so you don't want to use drag-drop in xplorer2 and you open windows explorer to do... drag-drop? I just don't get your argument!
But Windows Explorer has no such problem so this behavior annoys more hardly...
Sergey Trofimov
Using xplorer2 pro, Reference: X2.1-3E93EC16
Using xplorer2 pro, Reference: X2.1-3E93EC16
Re: blog: UAC survival guide
In reply to your answer by mail: I would like to run X2 in elevated mode in W10 P 64 (same problem in 32). However, as stated in my mail all my shares disappear so thats pretty useless. I tried to fiddle with all kinds of "trusted locations" and "security settings" to no avail. UAC is on lowest possible position save registry hack.