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You don't know the code.sanferno wrote:I do also admire your programming skills
sanferno wrote:Who cares as long as the tools are useful?
yessanferno wrote:you develop x2 and DR using Visual C++, don't you?
I have been struggling with that during last year, I have read a lot too, but I can't find a clear answer to the question, should I focus in learning C++ and combine it with VC++ for UI, or stick with C# since I do not have that much legacy code? I know this is a breakdown in this topic, but once the pit is open...nikos wrote:yessanferno wrote:you develop x2 and DR using Visual C++, don't you?
I understand you would suggest me to get a good knowledge of C++ (which I also think is really interesting) and, from that point, when it's necessary use other language, correct?MS do not own or control any aspect of C++.
Whiskey, of course.nikos wrote:should you be drinking wine or beer? probably both
Malbolge. End of story. It exists pretty much only to do your head in. Yes, you. Personally.Tuxman wrote:I'm pretty sure that there is a purpose for every language
Oh boy, long pathnames, and hard-links. Cutting edge, that is. So, like, these kids don't know how to use the WinAPI stuff that's already there (and has been for decades), they need to repackage it just to celebrate their own inanity? Kilmatead is surprised all right, surprised no one seems to have the cop-on to know a scam when they see one.Tuxman wrote:C# has AlphaFS. Kilmatead should be surprised.
Simple philosophy: if you learn the hardest thing first, everything after that is going to be chocolate cake. C++ is not the hardest thing, but nor is it the easiest - I personally think C (no "++") is all anyone really needs, but I'm weirdly retro that way. But C++ is not a bad foundation to work with, as it makes other stuff look like snowflakes.sanferno wrote:I understand you would suggest me to get a good knowledge of C++
Learn by doing, not by reading. You got yourself a PHD in real life, so you're already ahead of the game. Except programming is more about imagination, surprise, and elegance than it is about academic study. So, just go out and find some code that looks interesting, and rip it to shreds figuring out what it does and why someone did it that way.sanferno wrote:The thing for me is that I have not found a good reference or learning book to been able to develop in C++ and, if needed, have a GUI (in my case 99,99% of the times in Windows)
My next desktop project will be based on Lisp and have a Fortran-based blog and a COBOL-based website. Just because of all the fun I have playing with ancient technologies.Kilmatead wrote:As to the "purpose of every language"... ever since I was a kid and learned C, I never saw a reason for other languages to exist. Considering they are mostly all written in C in the first place, why not just write whatever you want this "language" to do in C yourself? Seems kinda silly. Sure, I learned Pascal in the day, and Ada (someone once said it was the up-and-coming thing, but it fizzled and went bump in the night instead), and Cobol and even punched around some Fortran. But once I discovered C, I was like, "I can now die happy, and all humans are fools".
Lisp... isn't that... the one... oh, god... there's a black worm in my brain... Parenthephobia! I knew there was a reason I should have stayed in bed this morning. That syntax is just goofy.Tuxman wrote:My next desktop project will be based on Lisp...