xplorer2 v1.8 public beta

[nikos]

here's the comment area for today's blog post found at
http://zabkat.com/blog/25Oct09-new-xplorer2-beta.htm

In the end paid-for upgrades didn't happen so this can go public. Thanks for the beta testers that took part in the closed testing phase

[RickyF]

I only see one link on the blog post. Am I correct to assume that is the 32-bit version.

[Cosmo]

Any differences between the first beta and the public one? So, does it make sense to "upgrade"? Or would we only find the already reported bugs?

[MegaZapFan]

Also, the link there appears to be for 1.7.2.20 not 1.8 ?

[Tuxman]

I guess 1.8.0.0 will be the "final version" then.

[wasker]

here's the comment area for today's blog post found at
http://zabkat.com/blog/25Oct09-new-xplorer2-beta.htm

In the end paid-for upgrades didn't happen so this can go public. Thanks for the beta testers that took part in the closed testing phase

64-bit?

[wasker]

Even without running the beta yet, couple of comments.

1. Confirmation window: please, please make the difference description in bold! That'll enhance the visibility of changes for good.

2. Confirm delete window layout a little bit confusing. What filter does? Does it remove *.tmp from the operation or it is being applied to only *.tmp? I think, given the destructive nature of the operation, there must be some description in filter block. Also I believe silent, keep window open and background operation options belong together. I'd better have Options -> Filter -> Behavior groups positioned from top to bottom. Another thing that must be done to the window is "You are about to..." label to be printed in bold -- again, this is a destructive operation and user must be properly aware of what's going on.

[nikos]

there are some bugfixes from the .19 and i spent a couple of days working with the registry settings editor

wasker, i mean come on, it's just a delete window, how many times have you seen one already?!

the "filter" part is simple: without a filter all selection is deleted, with filter only items matching the filter are deleted (eg tmp files within some folder structure)

[wasker]

wasker, i mean come on, it's just a delete window, how many times have you seen one already?!

Am I the only one your customer? C'mon, Nikos -- those are common sense suggestions.

[johngalt]

Nikos, I gotta ask - if I have the 64 bit version installed, what will be the effect of installing a 32bit version - will both be usable?  If so I can easily test the 32bit version for bugs and enhancements....

[nikos]

both 32/64 bit versions can run side-by-side with the /P command line switch but they share the same registry key so your options may get a bit mixed up

[dunno]

With robust delete, how do I inhibit the "Confirm Deletetion" context menu when I use shift-delete, I have ticked the "slient confirmation, no reports " option but there is still this annoying extra step/context menu.

[nikos]

you mean the robust delete dialog itself? That can't be silenced and i believe it is for your own good!

[dunno]

yes indeed the robust delete dialog.

Whilst I do appreciate your concern about the well being of my files, surely you can give me the "ownership" of deleting files as I see fit, there's something condescending about confirmation dialogs which is distasteful. do you not trust me, do you think that I'm incapable of deciding whether I "really" want to delete said files, by using shift-delete I'm certain that I want that file deleted, do I really need another dialog box to confirm it...

I understand your concern and appreciate it.

If I'm uncertain I'll use plain vanilla "delete" and send the file to the recycle bin.

Thank you for your great support and a great product.

[nikos]

as deletion is catastrophic one day you'll be really glad that there is a line of defence for accidental deletions... alternatively you can disable robust deletion (see the advanced settings editor, global page) and do things as in the past