JDN,
From the past discussions I gather your tools can give a totally flexible key-assignment and boost productivity of x2 even further.
I would like to check if I can include a full-fledged appendix in the x2 manual on how to exploit these tools.
Can you send a complete "manual"-type article to me? It should preferably have a table showing the syntax, and some examples tailored to x2.
Thanks.
P.S. Some of your commands seem to be equivalent of x2's own commands (e.g. sort, find). I would include only those commands that extend x2's functions; rather than substitute x2's commands.
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JDN
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Hello Narayan,
Let me ponder this and put something together for you in a day or two.
The thing about duplicating functions is that X2's method of sorting and my method of sorting (heh ... it's actually just the Windows Sort command) are done in two completely different environments and work on entirely different objects.
I have been experimenting with X2's ability to write all file names or data columns or directory structure to the clipboard. That would certainly be a valuable thing to do as part of a macro sequence started from X2. In other words, the user begins a process (either by striking a hotkey or automatically using the system timer) and X2 gets the desired data into the clipboard - writes it to a file (perhaps a RAM file) and then starts a CMD line process that makes use of that dat.
The fact that X2 can invoke CMD (or DOS) window processes is one of the strongest attractions for me and leads me to believe there is much potential for the two packages to creat some real synergy.
I will try to prepare something for you and send it to you in the next day or two. If you could send me a PM with an email address, that would probably be best.
In the meantime, if you would like to take the Hotkey Demo, it might help give you some ideas of what I'm talking about when I say things like:
"chained hotkeys", "executable hotkeys", "snap backs", "nested hotkeys", "assignable hotkeys", "looping hotkeys", "data hotkeys" and "one touch" access to windows and window manipulations
These things are all explained in the demos and you may be able to get a sense of them without a lot of grief by downloading the app from:
http://www.geocities.com/jdn_hotkeys
and going through the demo. The download also contains a full manual with several appendicies about the demos.
But I think you would be best served by a special reorganization of that info and I'll try to get you something soon.
Let me ponder this and put something together for you in a day or two.
The thing about duplicating functions is that X2's method of sorting and my method of sorting (heh ... it's actually just the Windows Sort command) are done in two completely different environments and work on entirely different objects.
I have been experimenting with X2's ability to write all file names or data columns or directory structure to the clipboard. That would certainly be a valuable thing to do as part of a macro sequence started from X2. In other words, the user begins a process (either by striking a hotkey or automatically using the system timer) and X2 gets the desired data into the clipboard - writes it to a file (perhaps a RAM file) and then starts a CMD line process that makes use of that dat.
The fact that X2 can invoke CMD (or DOS) window processes is one of the strongest attractions for me and leads me to believe there is much potential for the two packages to creat some real synergy.
I will try to prepare something for you and send it to you in the next day or two. If you could send me a PM with an email address, that would probably be best.
In the meantime, if you would like to take the Hotkey Demo, it might help give you some ideas of what I'm talking about when I say things like:
"chained hotkeys", "executable hotkeys", "snap backs", "nested hotkeys", "assignable hotkeys", "looping hotkeys", "data hotkeys" and "one touch" access to windows and window manipulations
These things are all explained in the demos and you may be able to get a sense of them without a lot of grief by downloading the app from:
http://www.geocities.com/jdn_hotkeys
and going through the demo. The download also contains a full manual with several appendicies about the demos.
But I think you would be best served by a special reorganization of that info and I'll try to get you something soon.
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narayan
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Thanks. I will check your site: It would be interesting to see these tools are useful in the specific context of x2.
Of course, your own interpretation would definitely be much better, because you have exact idea about their capabilities and limitations; not to speak of the possibility to extend/tweak certain functions!
Of course, your own interpretation would definitely be much better, because you have exact idea about their capabilities and limitations; not to speak of the possibility to extend/tweak certain functions!
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I shall mention it again, since we are on the subject of command line tools and scripts.
There is open source software available (see Link to Cygwin giving you the capabilities offered on all Unix type platforms with respect to scripting and file and string manipulation tools. For those who know Unix (or its siblings like AIX or Linux), this can be a real treasure on a Windows platform. All tools are ported to the win32 platform (even C compilers and editing tools like Vim) and even shells can be used (for instance csh or bash)
I have used these tools for many years now and I agree with JDN that for 'real' complex jobs regarding scripting, you simply can't do without. Windows own toolset has been very limited in the past (with the necessary bugs) and only since windows 2000 and upward have these tools matured a little bit. I still use the cygwin tools as an addition to what windows can do by itself.
Main two advantages of choosing Cygwin over your tools JDN, is the worldwide support for them (many people use them all over the world and it is also open source) and you can use the scripts you make (almost) without changes on any Unix type platform (second one is not a strong argument I agree, but nevertheless...)
There is open source software available (see Link to Cygwin giving you the capabilities offered on all Unix type platforms with respect to scripting and file and string manipulation tools. For those who know Unix (or its siblings like AIX or Linux), this can be a real treasure on a Windows platform. All tools are ported to the win32 platform (even C compilers and editing tools like Vim) and even shells can be used (for instance csh or bash)
I have used these tools for many years now and I agree with JDN that for 'real' complex jobs regarding scripting, you simply can't do without. Windows own toolset has been very limited in the past (with the necessary bugs) and only since windows 2000 and upward have these tools matured a little bit. I still use the cygwin tools as an addition to what windows can do by itself.
Main two advantages of choosing Cygwin over your tools JDN, is the worldwide support for them (many people use them all over the world and it is also open source) and you can use the scripts you make (almost) without changes on any Unix type platform (second one is not a strong argument I agree, but nevertheless...)
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) command prompt (see esp. the for command and findstr).-
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Interesting that you mention FindStr. I have found so many bugs and design flaws with that command, that I wrote an enhanced version and made it open source.
If ever there was a command that could benefit from being Open Source, it would be FindStr.
I can't imagine any way that it would hurt MS to make it open source and people would have found the bugs and fixed them - free of charge.
I devoted a large section of my documentation to discuss the bugs and shortcomings in FindStr and how I tried to fix them all. My enhanced version is called SEL (for Select) and as with all my other tools, anyone who would like to read about the bugs and flaws and use (in my opinion) the improved version is most welcome to it - both the source and the executable.
I have never heard of Cygwin and will try to research that. I have had a little experience with Unix but it was a long time ago. I preferred it to Windows without question - but it's nice to be able to walk in both worlds.
If ever there was a command that could benefit from being Open Source, it would be FindStr.
I can't imagine any way that it would hurt MS to make it open source and people would have found the bugs and fixed them - free of charge.
I devoted a large section of my documentation to discuss the bugs and shortcomings in FindStr and how I tried to fix them all. My enhanced version is called SEL (for Select) and as with all my other tools, anyone who would like to read about the bugs and flaws and use (in my opinion) the improved version is most welcome to it - both the source and the executable.
I have never heard of Cygwin and will try to research that. I have had a little experience with Unix but it was a long time ago. I preferred it to Windows without question - but it's nice to be able to walk in both worlds.
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OK, a few more I've stumbled across.
Winroll
http://www.palma.com.au/winroll/
Add windowshade mode to your windows, just like those Mac and X11 cats do!
Buzzsaw and DirMS
http://www.dirms.com/
Finally a free defrag tool for NT, and a better one for 2K/XP. NT 2K XP only.
PageDefrag & Contig
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/utili ... erformance
Defrag your page files & registry hives at boot time. Contig is a command-line single file defragger. Once again, NT 2K XP only.
Winroll
http://www.palma.com.au/winroll/
Add windowshade mode to your windows, just like those Mac and X11 cats do!
Buzzsaw and DirMS
http://www.dirms.com/
Finally a free defrag tool for NT, and a better one for 2K/XP. NT 2K XP only.
PageDefrag & Contig
http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/utili ... erformance
Defrag your page files & registry hives at boot time. Contig is a command-line single file defragger. Once again, NT 2K XP only.
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PowerPro
http://www.ppro.org
What doesn't it do? Play with the default bar, configure some new hotkeys, then dive in to the help file for full immersion into this do-it-all-and-then-some app.
http://www.ppro.org
What doesn't it do? Play with the default bar, configure some new hotkeys, then dive in to the help file for full immersion into this do-it-all-and-then-some app.
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i think we found a "wholockme" beater
http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
unlocks without crashing the locking program!
(works a treat as a workaround for adobe locking PDFs previewed in x2)
http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
unlocks without crashing the locking program!
(works a treat as a workaround for adobe locking PDFs previewed in x2)