Thumbnail support for RAW image files...

TsunamiZ · Post by **TsunamiZ** » 2006 Jan 26, 14:21

Cool.

TsunamiZ · Post by **TsunamiZ** » 2006 Feb 06, 23:58

nikos wrote:if you are prepared to try the alpha version mentioned in the PDF topic you'll know i fixed something there that may affect your RAW thumbnails too

Just tried 1.5 and it didn't fix. :(

Post by **nikos** » 2006 Sep 19, 07:31

does anybody use raw thumbnails? please try this debug version and let me know if it works, both in thumbnail view mode and in the draft quickviewer, thanks
www.zabkat.com/kenny.zip (1mb)

ps if that doesn't work still and it works in windows explorer can you email me a RAW image file so i can play with it?

TsunamiZ · Post by **TsunamiZ** » 2006 Sep 19, 07:59

nikos:

here's a random .crw image for you to test...

Name: CRW_1215.zip
Size: 5MB
The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/fq1hdq

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2006 Sep 19, 14:39

I do not work with RAW files (yet), so I appreciate the opportunity to have a sample.
Thanks, TsunamiZ.

I expect that as I become more serious about my digital photography, I will graduate to cameras with RAW image output features and I will then be VERY interested in having thumbnails for these files.

Back to the thumbnail topic:
The sample given opens ok in my photoimpact app.
But, in the file managers, no thumbnail is shown for the file.
Neither in winExplorer (XPsp2, after installing the RAW thumbnailer tool),
nor in x2 ...
and the QV pane simply shows the first part of the file in HEX (no image).

[oops note: I reinstalled the thumbnailer later & got positive results. see below.]

Post by **nikos** » 2006 Sep 19, 15:46

if win explorer won't show these then neither will x2 of course! but i thought tsunami has managed to show them in winexplorer?

btw, try keying a bookmark name (or part thereof+arrow autocompletion) in the new kenny and see what happens

TsunamiZ · Post by **TsunamiZ** » 2006 Sep 19, 16:52

i just tested again and windows explorer can show thumbnails for all .crw images. but x2 shows some but not others, which is strange. the images were all taken by the same canon powershot s60 camera at 5 megapixels .crw.

the previous image i uploaded actually worked for thumbnail in x2. this image doesn't though...

Name: CRW_1205.zip
Size: 6MB
The download link is: http://www.sendspace.com/file/kbrn9z

Post by **nikos** » 2006 Sep 19, 17:36

what is your size setting in tools | options | general | max file size | thumbnail?

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2006 Sep 19, 17:43

It turns out my initial install of the MS RAW thumbnailer and viewer did not 'take'.
Upon reinstallation, I get thumbs in both winExplorer and in x2 for both sample RAW files.
I note that the thumbnailer shell extension presents the 2nd images rotated horizontally, but the viewer erects the image as intended.

added:
I had QV off, but when I open the QV pane (Draft preview), I see wierdness for the 2nd sample (CRW_1205)
The image orientation remains horizontal, but the display field is erect (portrait), resulting in the right part (top if erected) of the image being truncated in the preview. (see below)
(The "Normal" tab QV pane remains blank.)

and, strangely, if I narrow the QV pane enough, the wierdness goes away, although the image remains sideways:

TsunamiZ · Post by **TsunamiZ** » 2006 Sep 20, 04:34

here is what i get and my settings...

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2006 Sep 20, 04:59

I tried your settings and it made no difference.
Is there a chance I downloaded a newer thumbnailer shell extension than what you have?
Mine is: Microsoft RAW Image Thumbnailer and Viewer for Windows XP Version 1.0 (Build 50)

TsunamiZ · Post by **TsunamiZ** » 2006 Sep 20, 06:37

installed build 50 and worked. i was using build 30 before. so i guess the bug is solved.

pink · Post by **pink** » 2006 Nov 06, 19:24

I have MS RAW thumbnailer installed (build 50) and I have xplorer2 set to thumbnail size limit of unlimited (0).

I cannot get thumbnails for .CRW RAW images from my Canon EOS300D in xplorer2.

Windows Explorer shows me thumbnails for all my RAW images, standard dialogs for other applicatiosn that give the option of Thumbnail view all show the RAW files as thumbnails as well.

I am running xplorer2 version 1.6.0.1 [unicode]

Should I grab the 'beta' link above and try that?

PS thanks for the app, for the most part it's absolutely brilliant, there are a few niggles that will I hope be resolved over time.

Post by **nikos** » 2006 Nov 06, 19:31

depending on the camera and its software, xplorer2 may not be able to preview its contents directly. Have you tried copying these pictures in your hard disk and check the preview there?

pink · Post by **pink** » 2006 Nov 06, 19:53

I'm a software developer, just for some point of reference.

I never plug my camera directly into the computer unless I am using the computer to take time lapse shots.

I dump files from the CF card using a CF reader and the F6 queue

I use Cygwin running an XGL X server under windows so I can use UFRAW for conversion to Jpeg and Tiff for further processing. UfRAW utilises DCRAW which is an open source RAW conversion library/app that has been used by many famous applications as the basis for their RAW support.

As UfRAW is a unix application running as a port under a Cygwin environement it does not use standard windows dialog boxes, this means it does not have thumbnail support for raw as the dialogs do not give a thumbnail option.

For this reason it is really handy to preview the RAW files so as to be able to easily pick which files I will convert using UfRAW. As I use xplorer2 for pretty much all my file management tasks I really loath going back to Explorer just to deal with my RAW files.

I hope this gives you some further background so as to help you help me get xplorer2 doing yet another wonderful thing.