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Post by wasker »

Now I'd really like to hear TzunamiZ' impressions of this "feature"...
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can somebody with vista test this for me: if you do a lengthy <ctrl+f> search (eg for all exe files) in a space where it has many small folders, does the mouse pointer go bezerk, changing from "busy" to normal and back very quickly and looking like cr@p or is it just my beta vista version that does that?
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The alpha 1.7 version crashes whenever I attempt to view the Recycle Bin.
Version 1.6.5.3 has no problem displaying the bin. There are currently 497 items in the bin.

Does anyone else have this problem or is it just me?
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probably it's a fluke of the debug version. Do you get an assertion error? what does it say? Click on ignore to dismiss it
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I have no problem with recycle bin (XPsp2) but I did my quarterly purge last week so have only a couple of dozen items in it.
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Post by wasker »

Same here for me: Windows XP SP2 w/ all hotfixes.
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Post by Cosmo »

Regarding this:
wasker wrote:Besides that, double click with this feature behaves very weird: instead of selecting new item on second click, it runs previously selected item.
This is not new. I am not sure, if this behaviour is a bug or an unexpected behaviour. If you (with 1.6.5.3 or 1.6.5.5, it's the same) mark several files or folder in the folder pane, place the focus to e.g. the Miniscrap, and then double-click in the same folder-pane another item (which is one of the not marked ones), than you will notice, that not the double-clicked item gets started or opened, but one of the previously marked ones. Strangly enough, trying this a few times (I used 1.6.5.3), sometimes the first (top most in actual sorting) gets started / opened, sometimes the one, that has the focus; I did not find a way to predict, which of both will get started by doing so. - Nevertheless, I would expect, that in my given example the double-clicked item gets started (or at least marked, whereas the previously marked items get unmarked with the second half of the double-click), but in no case one of the marked ones.

So, taking the example above, the behaviour, Wasker described here, is not really new. But with the old behaviour of the "Eat first click"-(EFC)behaviour the user didn't see it.

I am not yet quite sure, but I tend to believe, that the behaviour I described for multiple selected items is, what the EFC-option is ment to do; so the same can't be wrong for the new version.

For me personally, I am very happy with the new version (regarding this option) and hope, this will make into the final release. But I see, that users, who have other pattern of use may come to another result. This should be easily be solvable with an additional option, to extend the EFC-option also for folder with only a single marked item or not. Doing so, all users should get happy.
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Nikos: Do you get an assertion error? what does it say? Click on ignore to dismiss it
Usually I don't get an assertion. The one time that I did get the assertion failure, the "...encountered a problem... Debug / Close" window came up obliterating most of the assertion window.  The only thing remaining is tByteSize().

I didn't get a chance to click ignore before it crashed.
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Cosmo wrote:Regarding this:
This is not new. I am not sure, if this behaviour is a bug or an unexpected behaviour. If you (with 1.6.5.3 or 1.6.5.5, it's the same)
Am I missing something?  I didn't see a 1.6.5.5

Is this a beta or final?  Is it available?  Just curious.
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1.6.5.5 is the debug version (call it an alpha) of upcoming version 1.7  
It is for those who are interested in checking out & testing the potentially new features.
It can be downloaded from the link in nikos' post at the head of this thread.
It is not in release trim, and should be run with dbmon (debug monitor) active, which logs program activity and errors so the user can report problems encountered.
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here's the last alpha 1656, see changes.txt for the additions
www.zabkat.com/dbmon.zip (1.1MB)
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Opening my recycle bin (with 497 items) crashes using alpha 1656 as well.
I used dbmon to capture the debug statements, I can email this file to you if you like.
The most interesting lines were the last three statements:
3428: UWM_DELAYSHOW got rid of 0 redundant messages
3428: Second Chance Assertion Failed: File D:\umeca74\My Documents\cpp\newkenny\commViewImpl.cpp, Line 7175

Another interesting line is:
3428: D:\umeca74\My Documents\cpp\newkenny\folderItem.cpp(5977) : Assertion failed: ((IsFolder()==0) == ((m_ffd.dwFileAttributes & 0x00000010)==0)) ||
GetByteSize()
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don't worry about it, the crash will go away when we get away from these debug versions
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In alpha 1656 there seems to be a problem, if miniscarp and quickviewer are both open and the focus is on a MS-content (so that it gets shown in the QV): If you now try to close MS (QV still open), kenny crashes. If you bring at first the focus to a folderpane (so that the focused file gets shown in QV or close QV before MS, kenny does not crash. It is easily reproducable (because of this I did not sent a debug log, until Nikos aks for).
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Post by Cosmo »

In changes.txt for alpha 1656 it says:
* Each pane has folder icon on its titlebar; right click on it to access folder background menu
I do see the new space left of the path in the  titlebar for the folderpanes and I can rightclick there to get the said menu, but I do not see an icon.