blog: future so bright, i gotta wear shades

Thracx · Post by **Thracx** » 2009 Oct 07, 12:57

johngalt wrote:I get a single assertion and after that it seems to run OK.

Same here. Win7x64. I'll try and break it tonight

wasker · Post by **wasker** » 2009 Oct 07, 16:03

Oops. Did I miss alpha?! Nikos, I guess I've sent you a PM a while ago...

Post by **nikos** » 2009 Oct 07, 16:18

i sent you the notification to the last email of yours i had, if it has changed then send me the new one

wasker · Post by **wasker** » 2009 Oct 07, 16:21

PM'd.

WimdeLange · Post by **WimdeLange** » 2009 Oct 08, 06:36

Got the alpha now and the first thing I tried was dragging and dropping the tabs. What I hoped for is that you can drag to another pane, because most of the time that I want to drag and drop is to move to another pane. The order within a pane does not matter to me normally.

And another thing. I know that the alpha versions are slow because of the debugging options, but when I do a Alt-F1 to get a lists of disks it take more then 20 seconds! While normally that is within a second. Is there something wrong? Do you want some DBMON information there?
[later]
Maybe this is useful too: Windows XP Professional SP3

Kilmatead · Post by **Kilmatead** » 2009 Oct 08, 07:44

Bookmarks and user commands on toolbars are valid drop targets

I can die happy now. Preferably with a rope around my neck in a hotel room in Bangkok, but you know what I mean. A man's gotta meld style with functionality.

Cosmo · Post by **Cosmo** » 2009 Oct 08, 07:46

WimdeLange wrote:Got the alpha now and the first thing I tried was dragging and dropping the tabs. What I hoped for is that you can drag to another pane, because most of the time that I want to drag and drop is to move to another pane. The order within a pane does not matter to me normally.

You are right, but this what you want is something different than re-ordering the tabs. Re-ordering as until now by repeatedly calling the context command of the tab was the great pain IMO. And for that it is a huge advantage.

For what you want I simply press ctrl-i and I have also the appropriate icon in my toolbar.

Or do you want to move the tab to the other pane, so that the other pane has an additional tab?

WimdeLange · Post by **WimdeLange** » 2009 Oct 08, 08:55

Cosmo wrote:You are right, but this what you want is something different than re-ordering the tabs. Re-ordering as until now by repeatedly calling the context command of the tab was the great pain IMO. And for that it is a huge advantage.

For what you want I simply press ctrl-i and I have also the appropriate icon in my toolbar.

Or do you want to move the tab to the other pane, so that the other pane has an additional tab?

I agree on the fact that reordering is now much simpler, but I had never find the need for reordering.
What I do now is I switch to the other pane, do Ctrl-insert (hoping that the directory is not empty) for creating a new tab, switch back, do ctrl-i, switch to another tab, so that I can compare the two panes. Is is way easier if I can drag the wanted tab to the other pane and that one get's a additional tab and the current pane gets one tab less (with a minimum of 1 off course).

Post by **nikos** » 2009 Oct 08, 08:56

wrt tabs, i thought of having them move to the other pane, but it isn't as simple as it seems... you can always press ctrl+alt+ins to open the current tab in the other side as a new tab

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 2009 Oct 08, 08:57

Note that CTRL+I replaces the current contents in the opposite pane.

If you want to add a tab in the opposite pane, use ALT+CTRL+INS.
(If the focus is on a archive or a subfolder, x2 will open that archive or subfolder in the opposite pane. If the focus is on a file, x2 will open a new tab and load the same folder in the opposite pane).

Once the tab movement across panes is possible, we can expect both copy and move operations.

WimdeLange · Post by **WimdeLange** » 2009 Oct 08, 08:58

nikos wrote:wrt tabs, i thought of having them move to the other pane, but it isn't as simple as it seems... you can always press ctrl+alt+ins to open the current tab in the other side as a new tab

I must learn that help file from my head. This takes out some of the steps that I just described. I can live with this.

Cosmo · Post by **Cosmo** » 2009 Oct 08, 09:16

nikos wrote:wrt tabs, i thought of having them move to the other pane, but it isn't as simple as it seems... you can always press ctrl+alt+ins to open the current tab in the other side as a new tab

This sounds, as if it could probably take some time to implement this via Drag & Drop.

As for users, who are working at a given time with the mouse is always a pain, to switch for a single task to the keyboard and then back to the mouse again I suggest as a intermediate solution this (one or both of them):

Place the equivalent of ctrl-alt-ins into the context menu of the tabs.
Provide an icon for the toolbar for this command.

Speaking about toolbar icon: I strongly request a toolbar-icon as equivalent for alt-x, as closing x2 with the close button (corner up right) does regularly bring up the infamous comm_port-problem when logging out the windows account (even if x2 is not set to replace WE).

Post by **nikos** » 2009 Oct 08, 09:18

Place the equivalent of ctrl-alt-ins into the context menu of the tabs.

neat!

Cosmo · Post by **Cosmo** » 2009 Oct 08, 09:22

nikos wrote:
Place the equivalent of ctrl-alt-ins into the context menu of the tabs.
neat!

I have to ask what you mean. I asked my dictionary, whether there different meanings of the English word but I am not sure about this.

Post by **nikos** » 2009 Oct 08, 09:51

i mean it's a good idea