blog: new editor2 with HTML tag matching

[RickyF]

Notepad++ http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/uk/site.htm

[Tuxman]

How is this related?

[Kilmatead]

How is this related?

As you provided a (broken) link to your favourite editor earlier, he's just evening the score.

Just out of interest when you said

...typing two or three keys for something that would be way more complicated in ed² and N++ is simply lovely...

...could you provide an every-day example?

[Tuxman]

As you provided a (broken) link

Broken? How?

...could you provide an every-day example?

Depends. My every-day use is some coding and some pure writing. For coding, there are probably more examples.

Go to line 23, remove three lines, go to the last character in the (now current) line and replace it by "x":
23G3dd$rx

No "Enter", no anything.

(And there's the "global" command... do something in every line that matches a certain regex, and so on.)

[Kilmatead]

Broken? How?

Curious, this... if I click your embedded link to vim firefox always comes back saying that it can't find the server (this is repeatable).  However, if I just copy the link and paste 'http://vim.org/' directly, it goes there no problem.  Odd.

For coding, there are probably more examples.

N++ has a regex plugin, if I recall.

Other than than, what you're talking about is more ergonomic... some people (especially those with laptops) tend to not like mice that much, so setting up keyboard macros is a favoured method.  N++ happily does this too, if necessary.  However, for those who "do" like mice, that's moot.

I'm not against CLI, I just find it can be counter-intuitive if one's prejudice says "mouse-first, keyboard-second".  Some people (like you) are wired the other way around.

And again, for coding, a (proper) IDE (as nikos said) is the usual approach... I'd never claim N++ could replace one of those.  Though I am reminded of the days when learning Pascal on my old Commodore 64 no one had ever thought of IDE's for crappy little toy computers, so we made do with what we had and adapted quite well to even rudimentary CLI. Back then I would have killed for something like vim.

[Tuxman]

N++ has a regex plugin, if I recall.

N++ can not do "certain actions for every line matching a regex".

I'm not against CLI, I just find it can be counter-intuitive if one's prejudice says "mouse-first, keyboard-second".  Some people (like you) are wired the other way around.

You can do everything with the keyboard, you can not do much with the mouse. So...

And again, for coding, a (proper) IDE (as nikos said) is the usual approach...

Seeing people starting eclipse is fun to me. I can do so many things while they look at their hourglass cursor.

[Kilmatead]

Though I am reminded of the days when learning Pascal on my old Commodore 64 no one had ever thought of IDE's for crappy little toy computers, so we made do with what we had and adapted quite well to even rudimentary CLI. Back then I would have killed for something like vim.

You've gotta love YouTube, there's always something nostalgic to cringe over.

Maybe you can't do everything with a mouse, but to someone adept at extended toolbar buttons and some dexterity, almost anything is possible.  Almost.

Yeah, Eclipse does sit there and "think about life" for awhile before anything happens, but I was rather surprised at how fast (on a decent computer - not usually a laptop) later versions of Visual Studio can boot - usable even for (almost) instant text file editing.  Every now and then MS can design something quite interesting and not bloated.

Regex on N++ by line... not using it for that sort of work, I couldn't say one way or the other.  One of those things "the N++ community kids" no doubt would be more informed about.

[Tuxman]

Maybe you can't do everything with a mouse, but to someone adept at extended toolbar buttons and some dexterity, almost anything is possible.  Almost.

Well, unplug your keyboard then. Have fun.

I was rather surprised at how fast (on a decent computer - not usually a laptop) later versions of Visual Studio can boot

VS2008 is really impressive. Anyway, it all ends with VS2010 which uses WPF.

Regex on N++ by line... not using it for that sort of work, I couldn't say one way or the other.

I can, because it was my main editor before I got to know Vim.
(It still lays untouched on the hard disk. For emergency.)

[Kilmatead]

Then unplug your keyboard

I can't do that - my G-15 runs my whole life through it's screen.  8)  Mad shite, the things people invent.




Not being au fait with it, what's wrong with WPF?  (Really, I know nothing about it.)

[Tuxman]

I can't do that - my G-15 runs my whole life through it's screen.  8)  Mad shite, the things people invent.

You could hardly use your computer anyway.

Not being au fait with it, what's wrong with WPF?

Compared to the OS' native UI controls: It relies on a huge framework, so the overall performance decreases. (You know that from Java Swing interfaces. )

[WimdeLange]

However, I think what WimdeLange is referring to is that the x64 version of x2 already includes ed2 in a x64 version - so it follows that the next update will probably include this modified version in x64 as well.

Correct. I downloaded the new Ed version ans wanted to copy it in and noticed that the filenames are different. There is absolute no need for a 64 bit editor at all (other then performance, but that should be solved in other ways).

[Kilmatead]

You could hardly use your computer anyway.

Well, I do have a couple of exta 24" LCD's hooked up to it.

Compared to the OS' native...

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, your knowledge of English grammar (in this case possessives) is freaky for a non-native.  A compliment, that.

It relies on a huge framework, so the overall performance decreases.  You know that from Java Swing interfaces.

I thought it was based on Active-X, and was thusly influenced by accelerations?

I wouldn't touch Java if you paid me.

[Tuxman]

There is absolute no need for a 64 bit editor at all (other then performance, but that should be solved in other ways).

In worst case, a 64-bit application has a lower performance than a 32-bit application, depending on your configuration.

Well, I do have a couple of exta 24" LCD's hooked up to it.

... which don't replace your keyboard either.

your knowledge of English grammar (in this case possessives) is freaky for a non-native.

I do my very best.

I thought it was based on Active-X, and was thusly influenced by accelerations?

Not actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Pr ... Foundation

I wouldn't touch Java if you paid me.

Neither would I, if I would not have had to. Anyway, these years are finally over.

[Kilmatead]

...other then performance

There is no performance benefit under x64 unless the application is coded specifically for it (not just x86 recompiled - which 99% of current x64 applications are), or you're using extended memory (and actually using it), as discussed elsewhere.

Ironically, there's actually a (humanly-imperceptible) performance decrease, as the registers need to process longer data structures per cycle.  One of those urban myths, I'm afraid.

[Kilmatead]

... which don't replace your keyboard either.

No, but they provide better resolution than my eyes do, so maybe I could replace them instead.

I thought it was based on Active-X, and was thusly influenced by accelerations?

Not actually: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Pr ... Foundation

Yeah, no, my mistake... I meant to say DirectX.

Designed to remove dependencies on the aging GDI subsystem, WPF is built on DirectX, which provides hardware acceleration