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IneedHelp wrote: 2. Path Copying. I would like to have this set of options available when I desire to copy a path:

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Now, for those who already use ShellToysXP or similar kits, these requests may not sound too interesting, but for others they could be some welcomed new features.
I think FileMenuTools offers a better way to go on this item, the Copy Name. Path, UNC or URL are always available

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As you can see I also use ShellToys, BTW FileMenuTools is free, no conflicts with x2 or Shelltoys - lots of overlap though.  I use Pack to Folder a lot

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nikos wrote:ADS isn't very convenient as comments will be lost if you put them on a USB stick
That's why I wrote "Can xplorer2 be given an option to always store comments in an Alternate ...."

I thought you had addressed the issue of FAT not having ADS support with the "bundle" option.
nikos wrote:xplorer2 doesn't choose where to store comments, it relies on windows.
The problem I have with jpegs is that the Tag-ID 9C9C field is "owned" by the people who manage the image content - they can even change it with Windows Photo Viewer ;)

I'd like to have something where I can annotate any file system object in a consistent manner - and not be overwriting other folks data or have them overwriting mine.  

The problem I have with desktop.ini files is Shift/Del and they're gone. If the desktop.ini is there to to give the folder a special icon or a color then that's easily fixed - but if it's real data - then, IMO, a desktop.ini isn't a smart place to put it.  And its could get mangled by other programs, scripts, etc - as in http://forum.zabkat.com/viewtopic.php?t=8750

I'd be interested to know which  MS library creates the ADS, desktop.ini or WIC Comment depending on what is being "commented" upon.  I know how to do them individually at a low level, but you seem to be implying that there's a generic hi-level Comment widget that takes care of the details.

Sorry about that multiple post - I was getting "cant send email" messages

cheers RP
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RightPaddock wrote:As you can see I also use ShellToys, BTW FileMenuTools is free, no conflicts with x2 or Shelltoys - lots of overlap though.  I use Pack to Folder a lot
Yeah, it looks like most of the FileMenuTools features are included in ShellToysXP (actually I think all except that Pack to Folder option which I do not understand what it does yet).

Although I do not use most of ShellToysXP's features (since I like using dedicated tools for specific tasks), there are some which I use often enough (features that would fit perfectly to xplorer2 in my opinion).

Still, I access the copy path panel quick enough (straight from the contextual menu) and as you may have observed it has more options.

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IneedHelp wrote:+1, I still want to see hidden/system files, just not the standard ones, so a global filter list would be nice- there we could specify name patters for common files like desktop.ini, thumbs.db, or whatever we would not like to see.
I'll have some of that please!  8)
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Support for coloring folders in the tree view, i've requested this before.
nikos wrote: new unlock keys (sorry about that :))
So you're going to waste time on this, really ?
Well since you're arrogant enough then can you this time PLEASE not use the windows folder as your "secret" hide out folder for registration information.

It have caused me a lot of problems over the years  :evil:

Programs should leave the windows folder alone when it is not required to put stuff in there.

Please follow microsoft's recommendations and guide-lines this time.
So don't be lazy, lazy programmers are one of the worst programmers (others are stupid, arrogant, etc...)

Me and all other users will thank you for it.

Tough love is sometimes required and it's not only good for children  :roll:  :wink:
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BugHunter wrote:Support for coloring folders in the tree view, i've requested this before.
You mean something like this? :
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BugHunter wrote:It have caused me a lot of problems over the years  :evil:
How much trouble could a poor .dll file, keeping just some registration information, cause to you or anyone? There's major software companies that do really kinky stuff to protect their software, I see no harm when it comes to xplorer2.

Edit: sorry for the double post, wanted to edit the one above.
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IneedHelp wrote:
BugHunter wrote:Support for coloring folders in the tree view, i've requested this before.
You mean something like this? :
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No i do not mean the icons, i mean the text.

Like the thing you can do with color filter in file view
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IneedHelp wrote:
BugHunter wrote:It have caused me a lot of problems over the years  :evil:
How much trouble could a poor .dll file keeping just some registration information could cause to you or anyone? There's major software companies that do really kinky stuff to protect their software, I see no harm when it comes to xplorer2.
All those companies "protection" software cause troubles for the users.
Crashes, security risks, privacy leaks, privacy infringement, slowing down your computer, etc.

Like the "protection" that only allowed a PAYING customer to only install the software 3 times.

It's actually gone so far that the pirated version of the software is more user friendly then the paid version.
Companies have grown so greedy that they have the audacity to remove rights from the paying customer.

If this continues pirated copies will only become more popular and more accepted. (By the way i have seen this have already started for obvious reasons)

Use google and you will find lots of reasons why piracy protection is just a waste of time and money for both companies and the customers.
(The customer have to pay for the crappy protection software too you know)
Just imagine what the price for windows 7 would be if there was no "protection" in it at all.

For xplorer2 there's the security risks, both being forced to allow admin level and being forced to allow the program to put even more crap in the windows folder, put your crap in your own folder where the program exe file is located.

There's an old expression: "Do not shit in others toilets" (it's translated, this is the closest i could get it)
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the new registration system and trial will be much simpler using a license file

there can't be color filters for the tree as only part of the properties available in the color coding module can be used for the tree. Only simple color coding based on filename could be used
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RightPaddock wrote:
nikos wrote:to open anything in the other pane use Alt+Enter

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sorry :D
It is true that Alt/Enter will open the target folder of a folder shortcut in the other pane.

However Alt/Enter does not open the target folder of a junction in the opposite pane, it opens the junction itself.  

I know that the contents of a folder and its junction(s) are always the same, but I also know that the context is never the same, that is the target will always be located elsewhere.  My use of junctions & symlinks is to provide access to the same data in different contexts, but I often want to get into the context of the target folder.

In my case the target folder name is always different to the junction name.  There are times where what I'm doing in the context of a junction, may necessitate a change in the name of the target.  I know that will necessitate one or more junction repairs, but I have the means to do that relatively easily.  

So what I'm after is that Alt/Enter (or something else) on a folder junction will open the target folder in the opposite pane, just like a folder shortcut does, and I'd like symbolic links to folders to do exactly the same.  

The target of junctions, symbolic links is displayed in the Properties->Link Properties->Target field just as it is for shortcut files and url's

As an added extra, when the opposite pane has multiple tabs (folder sheets ?) then a dialogue similar to Copy/Move would pop up - but I'd be more than happy with a simple solution a'la Alt/Enter on ordinary shortcuts.

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Interestingly Alt/Enter on a URL file opens the file's properties dialogue.

RP

EDIT - Changed "Shortcut to column"  "Properties->Link Properties->Target field[/u]"

The columns "Link Target" & "Shortcut to" are a a bit of mystery bag, its NOT entirely an x2 issue, its also a Windows issue.  

Firstly, I cant find a column called "Shortcut to" in Windows 7 Explorer, I suspect this is related to the issue of "Columns" v "Properties", therefore I assume X2 is "manufacturing" this column to maintain backwards compatibility.

But there doesn't seem to be any consistency in Windows 7 Explorer's treatment of the "Link Target" column, for Shortcuts, SymLinks & URLs it contains it has the content of the Properties->Link Properties->Target field, but for Junctions its empty.

I'll try to find out why this is so - don't hold your breath though.

RP
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BugHunter wrote:All those companies "protection" software cause troubles for the users.[...]
I agree on most of the things you've said, but you can't expect software companies to loosen or just drop protection. You think they could live off donations? It's a tough world for software developers and they know it, so most of them are trying their best to overcome piracy by implementing (extreme) security measures.

It is general belief that the main reasoning behind piracy is that people do not have money for software, having other priorities like paying for food and taxes. But let me ask you, if you had $1.000 solely to spend on software, would you spend a dollar on software that can be easily cracked?

In most of the cases it's not the price, but the quality of the implemented protection which determines people to either buy or pirate software, and both parties (paying and pirate users) play an essential role in the future balance of any software company. Make it impossible to crack and you won't have enough buyers to spread the word, make it too easy to crack and you won't have enough people determined to buy the software.

Of course, there's also other things to be taken into consideration, things like customer support and regular (free) updates, but protection comes first.

For a tool, like xplorer2, that most of us use on a daily basis for managing even our most important files, I think it's neither the price (which, in my opinion , is fairly decent), nor the protection that should concern us the most, but the fact that it's developed and supported mainly by one man. Now, we can't prevent Nikos from getting ill or having an accident, but man's gotta eat and if x2 profits aren't enough for a doughnut, then it isn't good for anyone depending on his application.
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I think I'm right in saying that xplorer2 doesn't put anything into the context menu beyond what Windows Explorer ordinarily puts there.

I have seen several posts, including some of my own, suggesting features to be implemented as context menu items, eg folder coloring.

It might be useful, in terms of expectation setting, if Nikos would share his thoughts on whether or not x2 will start to use the context menu.

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Over time I've bought a few computers for myself & friends.  For desktops I never buy brands such as Dell or HP, they use too many discontinued components.  And I always try to track down a local "build shop".

Inevitably they ask what software do you want installed, even when I say just install the OS(s) they almost invariably load it up with a truckload of cracks.  A couple of months ago one of them loaded up Office 2010, Visual Studio 2010, Adobe CS5 Pro, Autocad etc, all cracks and worth a lot more than the hardware - I deleted them.

I don't care how nikos protects his property, as long as in doing so he doesn't damage mine or other folks property.  If he wants to charge for the upgrade that's fine by me, as long as its a reasonable amount i.e. something less than than I already paid.
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Ability to copy, paste & edit individual icons in a tool

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Does your redoing the icons in x2 mean we will have the ability to copy, paste and edit individual icons in a toolbar, rather than having to edit an image strip containing all the icons? I have been doing this in Word for many years. It would make me more willing to play around with my toolbar.

You don't have to include an icon editor, I would be glad just to be able to paste a singe icon into a toolbar, probably in the Customize Toolbar dialog.