Is it really neccessary to ditch Windows 10 ?.

[dunno]

A question for the zero and one geniuses.

I use Windows 10, I'm very reluctant to move to Windows 11. what exactly are the so called vulnerabilities that a non power user like me can experience ?.

I use Win10 (debloated optimised) on two laptops and my gaming PC, one laptop only for banking it goes online once a month, Another laptop for my email, productivity with known applications, and surfing to known websites. My gaming PC is used with Steam and GOG also youtube/Rumbble, Bitchtue surfing only. I do not go anywhere dark with any of my PC's no P0rn sites and I don't download any random software to just try it, The only email attachments I open are from my bank.

I also dont use any anti virus, anti malware, only standard windows firewall, Never had any issues with a computer behaving strangely, although one might ask if I don't scan for virus's how do I know I'm not infected, only from the way the computer behaves, yes primitive I know, but its the reason I only do banking on a dedicated laptop where everything is stored in Truecrypt and backed up in Truecrypt.

If I'm forced to upgrade I'll try Linux for productivity, for gaming I intend to hang onto Win10 until steam or game developers stop supporting windows 10, hopefully by then Linux will have a larger PC game accessory database.

[nikos]

In all my years with computing there was only one instance back in the late 90s where a "worm" entered my laptop on its own (it ran havoc in all college), probably we weren't using good firewalls back then. Nothing ever since, without any special AV (PITA) -- just common sense on what you run and install. So ipso facto the lack of updates shouldn't be the end of the world -- with the usual privisos about past experience not guaranteed to be future proof. In europe we get another year of free win10 "critical" updates anyway (not sure where you parked your hammock)

I can't remember why I don't want to update to win11, probably small glitches here and there (e.g the taskbar), and old-age obstinance
when the current laptop gives up I would have to go w11 anyway. So not something to spoil your dolce vita in any case!

[dunno]

In europe we get another year of free win10 "critical" updates anyway (not sure where you parked your hammock)

That one year of extra of windows comes with a requirement to open a microsoft account, nope. The location of my hammock doesn't qualify for that extra year.

I might consider moving to Windows LTSC with recall, copilot, and telemetry removed, Just not sure how well the enterprise version works with games, anyway I've got time, unless the ultimate Predator of humans, biological time, goes Tick To......

[nikos]

look, 40-50% of people are still with windows 10, so if there was to be an apocalypse, MS would be forced to deal with it

[Kilmatead]

I do not go anywhere dark with any of my PC's no P0rn sites and I don't download any random software to just try it

In the attempt to fulfil my lifelong ambition towards sainthood, I intentionally do all of those things and more. What's the point in saving yourself for marriage? Or having the internet if you're not going to abuse it? St. Augustine and St. Francis knew more about women and drink than anything else in their heyday, so the path is well trodden.

To be fair, though, I do use an excellent 3rd-party AV (the one the American Government explicitly banned, which means, of course, it's the only one which can be trusted), and I make copious and well-practised use of disc-imaging for backup purposes, "just in case", and the obligatory VPN (which couldn't log in to google or any other media-site, since those places are certainly verboten). Also, as an afterthought, a firewall with "phone home" allow/forbid notifications so little E.T. has to keep it in his pants.

And just to surf controversy in a sea of ostrich-like conservatism, the only account on my PC is (and has always been) administrator-only, so, in effect, going "commando" is de rigueur . I have never seen the point of hobbling myself just because it's the current fashion of fear dressed up as safety.

My point? Well, I used Win7 for 3 years after it stopped breathing and the townspeople didn't show up at my door with pitchforks claiming that my necrophiliac tendencies were an affront to decency, and they will be similarly tolerant of my Win10 predilections, I suspect.

hopefully by then Linux will have a larger PC game accessory database.

I don't use it (I consider Steam to be malware as it doesn't have a true offline mode), but the Steam Linux client claims suspiciously high title compatibility, so that may not be as far away as previously thought. Though, to be fair, pirating works just fine (unless you absolutely must be fragged by a 13-year-old Croatian kid in the privacy of your own home), with a thriving community providing clean updates for almost any game imaginable (except the nasty Denuvo-infected ones).

what exactly are the so called vulnerabilities that a non power user like me can experience ?.

Zero-day, as they say. The likelihood of there being too many of these undomesticated critters still hunting human-meat in the wild after a decade of Win10 "updates" is low, but not impossible. Your biggest threat is yourself by eschewing an AV, but that's personal choice. What's likely to happen first is the browsers you shouldn't be using in the first place (cough, Chrome, cough) dropping support just to force people to conform to MS-catholicism. In my foray with Win7 that's what finally got me... I used a beloved extension-riddled install of browser <x> for years without updates, and it finally became too annoying to compensate for. Death by attrition.

In the end, that's the thing: Forced submission through the sheer pernicious inconvenience and manipulation of your peers. Welcome to the future.

I can't remember why I don't want to update to win11

As a proper dev, it strikes me that you can't really afford to ignore it. That being said, I do recall you matriculating x2 to x64 without actually having an x64 OS yourself. I recall this because you shackled me with chains in the dungeon and force fed me about 50 betas before I finally signed the NDA.

Your obstinate stubborn denial of progress is almost as impressive as my own.

[Tuxman]

These days, there are few sights more pathetic than Windows users who genuinely believe that Linux, of all things, is even remotely suitable for games optimised for Windows, and secondly, that it's the only alternative operating system worth mentioning.

Of course, on Linux, FreeBSD, Haiku, and whatnot, you can use Wine and/or applications that are basically Wine but have a different name so they can be sold for more, to somehow coax many Windows programs into thinking they're running on Windows, with varying degrees of success (I've been told AutoCAD, for instance, runs terribly). But with all due respect, which really isn't much: anyone who ends their search for a future operating system with the conclusion that they intend to keep using Windows software should probably think of some smarter questions to ask themselves.

For a day-to-day laptop, just for getting work done, I find OpenBSD to be excellent, by the way. But for gaming, it would be a monumentally daft idea. In conclusion: yes, you undoubtedly want to stick with Windows. You're welcome.

[nikos]

for gaming I have a homebrew PS3, does the job nicely

And just to surf controversy in a sea of ostrich-like conservatism

so what sort of trouble does all this immoral behavior get you in? Are you reinstalling windows every other week?

[dunno]

What's the point in saving yourself for marriage? Or having the internet if you're not going to abuse it? St. Augustine and St. Francis knew more about women and drink than anything else in their heyday, so the path is well trodden.

St Francis, Augustine pfft, my go to Elohim are COMUS, KAKIA, HADES, PLEIADES, ATHENA, POSEIDEN, NEPTUNE, APOLLO, and ZEUS, whom I toast religiously every day.

I use tablets to indulge in the favourite pastime of the Elohim.

[Tuxman]

The pan-European paganism, however, shows hardly any significant differences between the pantheons; Thor, Zeus, Perun, different names, same characteristics. Whether there is even a sensible place in Central Europe for the fertility and war god JHWH of some Semitic desert peoples (after the political Damnatio Memoriae of Asherah) was irrelevant to those who desperately wanted us to adopt him. No wonder the Christian faith can no longer gain a foothold. There are not that many farmers unfamiliar with the climate left.

[Kilmatead]

so what sort of trouble does all this immoral behavior get you in? Are you reinstalling windows every other week?

See, that's the thing:

Growing up in the 80's, all children had three expectations in life: Everyone will die of AIDS, be addicted to crack cocaine, and have our skin burned off by acid rain. Life was simple. Predictable. Reliable.

But now, it's constantly prophesied that all those Russian and Chinese hacker-collectives (who work for the Nigerian Prince) are going to steal - well - everything we have, apparently. So, whatever you do, don't read emails, download torrents, or run anything that isn't signed by Zeus himself and supplied with at least three variants of cryptographically secure CRC checksums. You should also feel reassured that the Fives Eyes are watching your every keystroke. Not just reassured - thankful, even. They care about keeping your children safe, you see.

But I love Russian torrent sites. Frikkin' Shangri-la. ruTracker.org is fantastic and makes pirate bay look like amateur hour. FitGirl and cs.rin.ru can (and will) fulfil all your gaming needs for free, in clean packages, within a day of release, updates inclusive. EZTV eradicates any thought of subscribing to even a single over-hyped streaming service, and XVideos.com speaks for itself. What more could a morally wholesome young lad need?

Last time I reinstalled Windows was at 23:45 on Christmas Eve 2024, and that was just because I was bored. I don't know how all these screaming hoards of people are constantly contracting every form of encryption virus known to the underworld, but I am quite sure it's an excellent inverted-barometer of common-sense intelligence.

I'm still waiting for the drug-fuelled syphilitic orgies to happen, and the rain doesn't seem to have changed much. None of my youthful terrors ever materialised. But the propaganda never stops. It's certainly necessary to ditch an awful lot of nonsense in this so-called modern world, but Windows 10 ain't part of it.

The lesson of the 80's was that "Greed, for lack of a better word, is Good." In this century of technocratic enshittification, individualistic "immoral behaviour" is curiously the least of our troubles, and thrives unpunished because of it.

[dunno]

for gaming I have a homebrew PS3, does the job nicely

I ditched my PS4 Pro a while back when Sony California became DEI WOKE invested trash, Most AAA's are riddled with DEI ideology/propaganda and modern AAA games are mostly terrible buggy, bloated, un-optimised slop that they DESERVE to be pirated.
There's a list of all the games that are SBI infested on steam, also a web site by the same author, interestingly its predominantly kids, teen, and family games that they infest with their torrid ideology.

Pirating, I'd never do that (and my Elohim just looked at me with furrowed brows).
I was a HiFi vinyl nut case, got tired of the snap crackle pop and decided to try CD, other Vinyl nuts went "gasp, heresy, traitor" etc. I liked CD's and started replacing my Vinyl collection, about a quarter through replacement looking at the ridiculous CD prices I was hit by a stunning realisation, I was paying royalties TWICE for the same thing, I literally stopped dead in my tracks whilst this obvious fact entered my skull, no no no fvcking NO, thats not right. I stumbled across a 30 ft under ground P2P community, excellent quality in ripping and formatting, and voila music galore with zero regrets as I have already paid royalties on the entire collection and twice on 25% of the collection.

Moral of the story; Financial crime pays, they never go to jail or if they do they're out in one.

EDIT: Back on topic.
I sometimes cant help but think that AV companies create the shit which infests PC's to stay in business, *shrug*, maybe I'm a touch cynical ?.

[Kilmatead]

Pirating, I'd never do that... ...and voila music galore with zero regrets

And that kids, is called post hoc rationalisation, which is normally reserved for purchases you'd rather regret but wanted anyway, so clever slight-of-mind transference there.

I gave up on Sony after PS2 - after that it was all "online" rubbish with little to no backwards compatibility. And since the hardware has built in obsolescence, I satisfy retro-urges with a PS2 emulator that does its own upscaling (which sounds really weird when put like that).

I sometimes cant help but think that AV companies create the shit which infests PC's to stay in business

It's good for Westerners to be cynical - but they tend to be happier and live longer if they're not. A conundrum for civil responsibility.

[dunno]

Pirating, I'd never do that... ...and voila music galore with zero regrets

And that kids, is called post hoc rationalisation, which is normally reserved for purchases you'd rather regret but wanted anyway, so clever slight-of-mind transference there.

LOL, you had to engage in some serious out of context editing to make that work. I think you're AI

[Tuxman]

Pirating, I'd never do that (and my Elohim just looked at me with furrowed brows).

Stealing: The thing is moved.
Copying: The thing stays where it is, but now there are two of them. That's what you do.
Piracy: Stealing stuff on the high seas.

I was a HiFi vinyl nut case, got tired of the snap crackle pop and decided to try CD, other Vinyl nuts went "gasp, heresy, traitor" etc. [

They were right. As much as I like my WavPack files, and sometimes I find a few lovely albums which do not have a vinyl for some reason, the "snap crackle pop" (mostly gone on today's vinyls though, and you can wash them) is actually rather charming.

I sometimes cant help but think that AV companies create the shit which infests PC's to stay in business, *shrug*, maybe I'm a touch cynical ?.

AV companies are a bit like cigarette manufacturers: no one should ever smoke a cigarette because it's really bad for your health, but once they've got you hooked, you stay addicted and convince yourself that you'd be worse off without one.

[Kilmatead]

I think you're AI

If AI has progressed to the point where it can suffer (yet another!) broken nose after losing a head-butting contest with a horse, then indeed I am an AI with tissue stuffed up his digital nostrils to stop the bleeding. Is AI's ability to feel pain part of the Turing Test? I would pass that with flying colours. Mostly the red colour.