lite v1.3

ckit · Post by **ckit** » 2005 Jun 01, 15:53

Regardless, there is a GUI bug there.

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2005 Jun 01, 15:57

(don't miss significant information on the previous page's posts, nikos.)

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jun 01, 16:42

ok now i can do it too
but note all this tremendously long list of ifs and unlesses and whatnots required to manifest this "bug": surely users can alter any single detail to get normal lasso selection. Not to mention that visually the lasso when unfocused looks nothing like the normal focused action, having a much dimmer hilight color

all in all although i am reluctantly admiting this as a buglet, isn't it in the user's hand not to fall victim of it?

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2005 Jun 01, 17:32

@ long list of ifs -- The list includes my normal operating settings .. and no doubt the preferences of many others.

@ unfocused looks nothing like -- That's precisely why I never fell into its trap: my colors/shadings make it obvious to me.
However, others (including, no doubt, jasinwa) may have their views set so it is not so obvious.

@ user's hand not to fall victim -- of course! (unless you are trying to build a user-friendly app that even granny with her poor eyesight will love, or gandpa with his "I've always done it that way with Windows and refuse to change my ways" attitude.)

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jun 01, 17:59

ah, but windows explorer cheats, it doesn't have full row selection so this can never happen!

anyway, i'll have a look but this kind of small thing may go down very deep and turn out to be unfixable

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jun 02, 12:34

ok that does it:
www.ps.ic.ac.uk/~umeca74/dbmon.zip
watch out for any side-effects!

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2005 Jun 02, 13:19

well, from a quick check it looks like that Pro debug build is cured of the unfocused lasso problem

... but it will take days of normal usage before I would be willing to state there are no side effects.

PS - may we presume you will provide the same "fix" to the Lite version?

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jun 02, 13:26

yes, the lite 1.3 will be fixed too, with all the rest of "hot" paraphernalia

ckit · Post by **ckit** » 2005 Jun 06, 14:40

Which links have been updated for the Lite and Docs v1.3.0.0?
Servers 1 still have old versions, I haven't tried Servers 2. Simtel's crap site doesn't work with Firefox at all.

Thanks for the new version,
ckit.

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jun 06, 14:42

i'm updating stuff as we speak
sadly for the lite version you're going to have to wait till simtel uploads it, should be within a week or so...

hpp3 · Post by **hpp3** » 2005 Jul 18, 17:03

I couldn't help but put in my two cents... I've been using Xplorer2 since the later alpha releases, (boy has the look changed...) and have always appreciated having a freeware version of an indispensable app. My views on free and shareware in general are somewhere in the middle of RMS's "open source macht frei" and Bill Gates' "all your code are belong to me". I deeply appreciate freeware or else I wouldn't have any software at all. I'm not a rich guy and I have a hard time digging out enough couch change for the power bill, but I fully support any software author's right to get paid for what he/she does. Which means that when I get the money, and the features are worth it, I will buy a piece of "Pro" or "Deluxe" or "Advanced" software without grumbling. That said, may I direct attention to the Libera Manifesto and give a hearty "Thanks a Grip" to Nikos.

Two more cents - A piece of music software I used to play with a lot, Tuareg, had seperate free-and-pay versions and then for version 2 the author made it so that the "lite" version was simply an unregistered "pro" version with the "pro" features disabled until registered. Cut way down on the bandwidth, made one codebase to maintain, and the Pro version wasn't a seperate download away, it was always right there, just in reach... You could even try out the pro version for a limited time from a "get the pro version" splash screen so as to eliminate the perceived annoyance of the "30-day free trial". Two sets of functionality, One download to have them, Two versions to offer, One code base to bind them...

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jul 19, 10:35

i can't say that maintaining 2 versions is much of a trouble for me. Still your idea is something worth considering for the future

timtim · Post by **timtim** » 2005 Jul 22, 16:49

Nikos, mate, you're a bloody saint!

I'm going to buy the Pro version just to compensate you for all the grief you get. I've been using the Lite version since day 1, I've never had any real problems with it - 'it does what it says on the tin' - a pity all software can't be this good, keep up the good work. Heck, I might even find a need for Scrap!

Now, where's my Digital River ID...

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2005 Jul 22, 16:54

@ ... find a need for Scrap

WARNING! Once you start using scrap containers, you may discover that you can't live without them. ;)