report a bug or strange thing

tristelune · Post by **tristelune** » 2005 Feb 24, 17:23

I just tried xplorer² and find it great.

but a thing maked that I deleted one of my save directory like that:
you put one of the tab in detail view, you select a directory in the folder tab and then select a fiew files from the detailed file tab.
the selected files are only greyed(i saw that later) and then just deleting

the files are deleted yes, but with the entire directory selected on the directory tab

I hope this will change one day(that behavior doesn't exist in win explorer)

thanks again for this great explorer

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2005 Feb 25, 02:26

I'm not sure if I understand your complaint.

It sounds like you tried to delete a folder while you were in the tree pane and that folder was being displayed in the active folder pane.
This is not permitted by design (to avoid unintentional loss of data).
Best practice is to use the tree pane for navigating and the folder panes for file management actions.

However, nikos has succumbed to quite a number of folks who want to be able to delete the active folder while navigating in the treepane. That capability is now a user option in the x2-Pro 1.1.0.90 BETA version.

tristelune · Post by **tristelune** » 2005 Feb 25, 09:51

no, in fact i wanted just to delete 3 files that were in the directory.

what i noticed is that when we select a folder in the directory pane, and we select multiple files in a file tab(in detail view mode) the files are greyed just like the pane was not active. and for some sort of reason, i was able to delete the folder !!!

just a note to say that by selecting multiple files i mean clicing on one's line, maintaining the clic to select more.

If you need it to see it more clearly, i'll try to make screenshots

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 2005 Feb 25, 11:53

Even I am not able to follow the exact nature of your problem.

directory tab

Did you mean a node on the folder tree?
Or a tab in the folder pane?

Please refer to the User Manual (the pdf file) and follow the process for deleting the files exactly as given on p63, and see if that helps. And you will also be able to use the terms we use, so that there is no room for any doubt when we try to help you.

Are you cutting the files by any chance? That would explain the "graying" (after you do the cutting, that is). Or did you mean that the entire pane grays out?

If you delete, the files do not appear in gray. They would disappear from the pane altogether. And the pane's background remains bright.

Probably after selecting these files, you must be using the CTRL+X (or the CUT option from the context menu), yes?

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2005 Feb 25, 12:14

I cannot reproduce what I think you are describing, tristelune.

The only way I see items in the Fileview pane in gray is when I have shifted focus away from the active pane: to the tree, QuickViewer, addressbar, or to the other view pane. In only the latter case does the original view pane become inactive -- although in every case it loses focus, as indicated by the grayed selection.

What are your settings for the Tree and for the View panes?
(on Tools | Options... | Window tab )

tristelune · Post by **tristelune** » 2005 Feb 28, 09:03

I'll try to explqin better and with the proper terms.

I'll first explain how i select multiple rows, as i saw it is the special thing here.
Having the focus on the filepane, make sure you are in detail view, then clic out of a colomn to be sure that you don't have any file selected.
Then, clic and maintain the clic in the name colomn but not explicitely on a name (i mean on the row of a file, in the name colomn but not on the written name of the file) and drag your cursor up or left to expand what is a selection area in windows (an area which generaly is just seen because of the rectangle that delimit itself(try on your windows desktop first perhaps if it is not clear enouth and you'll seen what i mean)).
Then you left the clic and multiple files are selected.

Now, make sure again that no file is selected, put the focus on the tree view and try the same special selection as i explained just up there. you'll see that the files are selected but the focus don't go from the tree view to the filepane, it rest on the tree view.

I hope this is more clear and will try to explain more if not.

tristelune · Post by **tristelune** » 2005 Feb 28, 09:04

I just forgotten to say that my options are the default ones.

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Feb 28, 09:57

looks like you are describing "lasso selection" but i can't reproduce the problem on windows 2000

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 2005 Feb 28, 11:40

Now, make sure again that no file is selected, put the focus on the tree view and try the same special selection as i explained just up there.

tristelune, in the second part, you tried the Lasso selection on the tree pane. This is not possible: it is designed for selecting one node at a time. The folder panes are the correct place to use a lasso selection.

To find the correct terms, please refer to User Manual p.15. refer to the numbers provided on the screenshot and also refer to the table.

...you'll see that the files are selected

How did you manage to get that? First of all, the tree pane won't show you a single file, let alone select them!

...but the focus don't go from the tree view to the filepane, it rest on the tree view.

So is this the problem? Then select the Tools | Options menu. Select Windows (middle) tab. Put a tick in "automatically shift focus to view after activation" option. Press OK. Now as soon as you click on any node in the folder tree pane, the focus will jump back to the folder pane.

But you have not mentioned anything about the problem you reported in your first post (something about being able to deleting the folder while only some files in it are highlighted)...

tristelune · Post by **tristelune** » 2005 Feb 28, 20:31

narayan, i'm using the lasso selection yes.
The subtility is that the FOCUS is on the tree pane, but it is on the file pane that i am then doing the lasso selection.
with this, i have multiple files selected but the selection didn't make the focus going to the fle pane.

tristelune · Post by **tristelune** » 2005 Feb 28, 20:38

To narayan again, My problem is that i was on a folder of the tree pane and selected multiple files in the file pane using the lasso selection because i wanted THEM to be deleted, but because the focus didn't move to the file pane, that was not ONLY the 3 files that i wanted to deleted that had been deleted but the WHOLE FOLDER with about 300 or 400 files of archives of mine ...
I could restore the files but, even with the option, the problem exist...

EDIT:
i made screenhoots
http://yoh.shaman.free.fr/xplorer2/step1.GIF
http://yoh.shaman.free.fr/xplorer2/step2.GIF
(to unselect, clic outside the colomns)
http://yoh.shaman.free.fr/xplorer2/step3.GIF
(clic on the "c:\")
http://yoh.shaman.free.fr/xplorer2/step4.GIF
(making the lasso selection)

fgagnon · Post by **fgagnon** » 2005 Feb 28, 21:01

okay, NOW I see it. :shock:

The anomaly can occur if either of the first two Tree options is left unchecked:
[_] Single click to change folder & "hands free" activation.
[_] Automatically shift focus to view after activation.

(I have them both checked as my own preference.)

I vaguely recall another issue with focus not getting updated on a ButtonDown action in the past, but don't remember if there was any resolution.

Until nikos finds it worthwhile to user-proof this oddity, I would either select both of the above-mentioned user options, or just be careful.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » 2005 Mar 01, 19:10

So, the reason why whenever I try to delete a folder directly from "Tree View" an error message comes up saying the file is in use when it really isn't, is to prevent potential unintentially data loss? Well, my files go to the Recycle Bin before I decide to erase (not delete, since Emptying Recycle Bin is equivalent to taking labels off file cabinets). Is there some way I can change this so I can delete them from Tree View? I do a lot of customizing on my PC and I do this quite a bit. Switching from Windows Explorer to Xplorer2 Lite is very nice. I like the minimalist style of it and that Control Panel always shows up as opposed to WE.

Cheers,
Jeremy

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Mar 01, 19:28

no, that's another thing
see GIOPT_NOSETCURDIR in registry.txt
the forthcoming v1.2 will have this option available from the GUI

JRz · Post by **JRz** » 2005 Mar 08, 21:38

tristelune wrote:[...]Now, make sure again that no file is selected, put the focus on the tree view and try the same special selection as i explained just up there. you'll see that the files are selected but the focus don't go from the tree view to the filepane, it rest on the tree view.
[...]

The reason you are deleting the whole folder in stead of just the files you selected using the lasso technique is the fact you explicitly give focus to the tree pane by trying to 'lasso' select in that pane. As narayan mentions, this pane doesn't support lasso selection, but clicking (and dragging) in an empty spot of the tree pane does give it focus and the last folder you were in is highlighted. This is the folder that is going to be deleted when you press [Del] when the tree pane has focus.

I believe that is exactly what is happening in your case.

Let me remind you that Windows Explorer behaves exactly the same !!

P.S. Fred, this has nothing to do with the options you describe as far as I can tell.