Can't switch between Tabs

danone · Post by **danone** » 2005 Jul 25, 06:58

Hi together,

I am just trying the lite version. And i can't switch between
the tabs with the hotkey ctrl+alt+left or ctrl+alt+right.
Is this a bug? So my pane style is list and I have only two
tabs (and no other program is running)

Any ideas?

PS: The program is great - think i am going to buy the pro
version

Kind regards
danone

vserghi · Post by **vserghi** » 2005 Jul 25, 07:56

I had the same problem, and the only reason I could think of of why it did not work was because I had accidently pressed the Alt key, so enabling the menu short-cuts.

Try pressing Escape a few times, then try the tab swapping to see it it works.

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 2005 Jul 25, 08:28

I too had the same experience. Note that if you press ALT only once, the File menu gets highlighted, but it is not at all noticeable. It does not pull down the menus till you press the arrow keys.

One more reason is that the program window loses focus because of some pop up dialog, etc. (The top bar of x2 window becomes gray instead of blue). In that case you have to click somewhere inside the window to reactivate it.

danone · Post by **danone** » 2005 Jul 25, 08:38

Hmmm, I tried your suggestions but none of them worked. What else
could I do to get this key working.

(File menu isn't highlighted and the xplorer2 has still focus).

Please help - it's so annoying to click with the mouse

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jul 25, 08:57

if the rest of the shortcuts work (e.g. ctrl+C etc) then something in your system is eating up these particular shortcut

have you tried pressing ctrl, alt, then arrow? (press keys in sequence, not all at the same time, keeping earlier keys pressed)

danone · Post by **danone** » 2005 Jul 25, 09:04

It doesn't make any difference if i press ctr then alt then arrow. It doesn't work. How can I see what application eats the shortcut - or is there a way to make another shortcut for tab switching?

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jul 25, 09:11

this is a tough one, finding the culprit
you can't change the x2 shortcut either, unless you understand resources and can edit the accelerator table with something like resource hacker

danone · Post by **danone** » 2005 Jul 25, 09:15

Hmm so what else can i do - ???

danone · Post by **danone** » 2005 Jul 26, 06:25

So once again me :)

I have tried to check my system if anything is eating the damn hotkey
combination ctrl+alt+left or ctrl+alt+right (with hotkey detective 2) and
also with a nice vbs script which I found in the forum.

So the result - there is anything eating the hotkey combination!

The workaround for now is that I have used resource hacker to change
the combination to ctrl+left and ctrl+right - this works. But I think this
is not a good solution. So there must be another way ????

Post by **nikos** » 2005 Jul 26, 09:28

you have just used a couple of programs to scan for hotkey snatchers but that doesn't mean that there is no such culprit

try using a program that does allow you to set custom keystrokes for commands and set c+a+arrow for one of them; will it work there?

danone · Post by **danone** » 2005 Jul 26, 10:05

Hmm u are right - i have another program set the hotkey for a command
to ctrl-alt-arrow and it doesn't work neither.

So damn how can I find the app who eats that hotkey - is there no further tool to detect that app?

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 2005 Jul 26, 12:13

I am making a wild guess here (I am not an expert in keyboards), but if you are using a Spanish/French/Russian/German keyboard (Called "International" in general) and if you are using the ALT key located on the right side of the spacebar, then this may happen...(I don't have such a keyboard, so this is just a guess.)

These keyboards have the right-side ALT key labeled as ALT-Gr, which is mapped for different function (to generate accents, such as umlaut, etc). The ALT-Gr key in these keyboards MAY NOT work in shortcuts like the ALT key does.

So try the ALT key located on the left side, and let us know...

See
http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/kfrench.asp
http://www.forlang.wsu.edu/help/keyboards1.asp

danone · Post by **danone** » 2005 Jul 26, 17:28

Hmm sounds interesting - but I am using the left Alt key. I think the
best solution would be to find the application who eats the shortkey.
So I think i need a tool to detect that application ??

I thought if an application is active (like 2xexplorer) how can another
application eat that hotkey. I think windows itself can't be the culprit
because the tool hotkey detective didn't find any hotkey in use.

Dhamu · Post by **Dhamu** » 2005 Jul 26, 22:45

Some programs have hotkeys that can be used globally, even when the program isn't in focus. For instance, Winamp's global hotkeys use Ctrl+Alt+Left/Right for Jump_Back/Ahead. Though you'd likely notice if a song you were playing skipped when you hit a key.

narayan · Post by **narayan** » 2005 Jul 27, 04:49

Process Explorer (from systernals) is an excellent utility that shows all running programs, some of which may not show on task bar or system tray.

You can kill programs one by one and see if the last closed program was eating the shortcut.

The catch is that you have to know which program is essential and which is not; otherwise you may end up making the system unstable (or worse, compromise its security).